No, the Soldier cannot decline and the leader is under no obligation to do the corrective training with the Soldier. Frequently leaders will do the corrective training with their Soldiers to motivate and inspire them. Army Regulation AR 600-20 and FM 7-22 provide specific guidance on the use of physical training as corrective training.
AR 600-20 paragraph 4-6:
Corrective training must be related to the offense, oriented to improve the substandard performance, Can be after hours, can only be implemented until the deficiency is corrected.
AR 600-20 paragraph 4-20:
When authorized by the chain of command and when not unnecessarily cruel, abusive, oppressive or harmful, the following do not constitute hazing: administrative corrective measures including a reasonable number of repetitions of authorized physical exercises.
FM 7-22:
Corrective training is often used incorrectly resulting in over training or overuse injuries. These sessions are not smoke sessions. Authorized exercises include: Rower, Squat Bender, Windmill, Prone Row, Push up, V-up, Leg Tuck and Twist, Supine Bike, Swimmer, 8 Count Push up. Only these exercises may be selected. The number of repetitions should not exceed 5.
Word of advice
It may be easier to knock out a few push-ups rather than give an NCO a lecture about appropriate corrective training and then get corrective training that takes a few hours from your day. Be careful what you wish for.
If you would like more information on corrective training please read this article: Using Corrective Training to motivate substandard performers
Comments
Gerald
If I disagree with a counseling for disrespecting a nco but I didn’t and I disagreed with the counsel do I still have to do the corrective action which is write a summary
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SPC Marlow
Heard somewhere back in the AIT that an NCO can’t request a junior enlisted do something that they themselves cannot or would not be willing to do themselves, is there any truth to that claim? if so what article would that fall under?
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SPC Marlow,
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Pv2 sullivan
I was just wondering are your allowed to get smoked while on civilians off duty?
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PV2 Sullivan
This information is provided based on the information you shared, is not legal advice and should not be used as a source to make your decision. The best options are to do your own research seek guidance from your chain of command, JAG/ IG depending upon your situation.
Getting “Smoked” is illegal and considered Hazing under AR 600-20. Now was it corrective training “doing a few push ups or was it intense and lasted several minutes and performed in front of others?” If you truly got smoke than it was illegal and you must decided what to do about it. Is this battle worth fighting? The bottom line is there is nothing wrong with corrective training in or out of uniform (within reason). But getting smoked is never okay and is against regulatory guidance.
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SPC Young
If someone is going to do corrective training. Is the soldier allowed to ask why they are being corrected for? Cause I have seen NCOs drop soldiers for some reason, but not tell them why they are doing some type of exercise for.
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