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I just got put on assignment orders. How can I get them deleted?

I recently found out as I checked my AKO that I have been placed on assignment orders to Ft. Polk, LA. How can I request to get them deleted?

Getting put on assignment can be stressful to any Soldier. When a Soldier is placed on assignment to a duty location they do not want to go to, or they just do not want to leave their current duty assignment for a number of reasons, there is still a way out of it–though everyone should be aware that a request for an assignment deletion is never guaranteed. Branch managers at HRC place Soldiers on assignment for a variety of reasons, and they are only ones who can tell you what that reason is. Because of this, deletions, though not impossible, are a matter of timing, unit strength, and justification.

I just got put on an assignment order, how do I get it deleted?

When attempting to delete assignment orders, make sure you give a reason that is justifiable and logical.

In order to request an assignment deletion, you must fill out a DA Form 4187 requesting deletion of assignment. A format for the DA Form 4187 can be acquired from your S1. Ensure you give a reason that is justifiable and logical. Just remember, the more information, the better. Also be sure to attach any supporting documentation you have such as doctor’s medical notes, memos from your child’s school, school reservation letters, etc. The documentation of course will depend on your situation. The DA Form 4187 must be signed by you, your company, battalion, and in some units, the brigade commander. Your DA Form 4187 will be routed to your S1 for input into the system (EDAS) or will be sent to your branch manager for approval. Based on my experience, branch managers usually make a decision within a week. Your S1 should be able to give you status updates.

If your request is disapproved but you would like a later report date, consider a deferment request using the same procedures above.

posted on 07/08/2011 under Q&A
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Mac Arthur D. "Mackie" Ocampo is a full-time Active Duty Sergeant First Class and has served in the Army for 13 years to date with 9 years of service as a Human Resources Specialist. Currently, he serves in 2d Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment, 2d Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2d Infantry Division at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, WA. Mackie has served in Korea, Ft. Carson, CO, Schofield Barracks, HI, twice in Afghanistan, and twice in Iraq accumulating over 59 months of overseas service. He believes that the "personnel" aspect of a Soldier's career is a big factor in their morale and readiness and is determined to assist Soldiers in their professional development by providing sound advice and clarification of ongoing policies, regulations, and procedures.

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  • SGT Mitchell

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    I was awaiting my orders to either get deleted or deferred I recently looked on my AKO ASK and Korea is no loger on there and I also checked my requitsion and the other day it had Rule:5 SM on Assignment instructions today it read RULE:33 SSM Fenced in unit does this mean my orders were deleted, and also my ERB still has Projected on it.

    • Mark Gerecht

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      Fenced: Means you will remain in your current unit until the fence date. Usually 1-2 years. You might consider calling your assignment manager and asking them for the date your fence ends. This information shows up in there database.

  • Patterson

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    Im currently on orders to ft. lewis i really dont have a legit reason to why i want to stay at my unit i just dont want to go i have 16 months before i ets and i rather ets from germany im currently flagged and my commander want hold the bar so i think it will most likely be lifted what else can i do to try and stay at my current duty statioj in germany?

    • SGT NICK

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      Is the flag transferable? HT/WT is a common one. You can sign a DCSS statement if you more than 4 years and you are not on your initial term to decline the assignment. You could also email/call your branch manager from the HRC website to have the orders deleted. They will most likely want a 4187 sign by you and your commander which will be forwarded to S-1 then to HRC for deletion consideration. Talk this over with the 1SG and let em know you want to submit a 4187 for assignment deletion request, S-1 should type up the format for you.

  • SGT Mitchell

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    I am currently on assignment to Korea and recieved my orders on 25 MAY 2012. I recently submitted a 4187 for deletion of orders within a week of my order being cut due to elective surgery my report date is 12 AUG 2012 my surgery will take place in JUL 2012 and I have a NON-Deployable profile. It was recommended for approval of deferrement all the way up to Brigade level. My surgeon recommened Medical deletion. will it get sent back because on my 4187 I was told to put medical deletion instead of defferment because it is a overseas assignment..

    • Mark Gerecht

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      SGT Mitchell,
      In my experience this would most likely result in a deferment. Your assignment manager will look at the information you provided and determine if a deferment or deletion is in order. I do not believe they will return it without action. More than likely they will either defer you or delete your assignment. On a side note having served in Korea it was not a bad assignment. In fact is was one of my better assignments. If you are married and can get a command sponsored position it is even more enjoyable.
      Did you find this information useful? We appreciate your feedback!

      • SGT Mitchell

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        I really appreciate your wisdom and I really want to go but I will not have sponsorship which is ok with me I just want a later report date. Thank you so much for the advice.

  • CMC

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    What happens once your assignment has been deleted and you have already shipped pov back conus?

    • Mark Gerecht

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      Depending on why and how your orders were deleted you may be able to continue on your assignment. Coordinate with your S-1 and or HRC assignment manager. If your orders remain deleted coordinate with your S-1 to get your deletion orders. Then you will have to coordinate with the port authority that your POV was shipped to. If you used a car shipment service call them to see if they can assist you. The Army should repay you for any expenses related to this issue

  • SGT Lee

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    I’m currently in Trainee status due to reclassification. I found out that i will have to be reduced down to SPC in order to satisfy prerequisits for the course. How do I get my orders canceled so that I can go on to recruiting instead? what steps must I take to do this? Thank you in advance

    • Mark Gerecht

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      SGT Lee,
      I would need more information on your situation. What is your current MOS? What MOS are you reclassifying into? Who provided you the information that you will have to be reduced to PFC to re class? Do you have this information in writing? Did the person that gave you this information provide you a reference such as a regulation or Milper MSG?

  • SGT Price

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    I am currently on orders for Korea and I report in October. I just found out that I have reached my RCP on my ETS date. I am trying to get my orders deleted because I would rather prepare to transition to get out of the Army from the states. What are my chances of getting my orders deleted? Is there anything I can do?

    • SGT NICK

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      Kinda late on this one but to answer the above question if you want to change or delete orders it will require a 4187 sign by your commander requesting it. Some of the reasons that soldiers list on here sound legitimate but it depends if your COC supports it. To change orders you would probably need to volunteer and submit a packet for one of the service/trial schools to get them changed. Airborne/Recruiter/DS/Instructor are common ones but be careful what you wish for…

  • Spc Walden

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    I am 12 days out from my PCS date. I have yet to be put on assignment let alone have orders. My old assignment was deleted because am a 19k reclass to D. Some people are trying to tell me thats why I don’t have orders but that doesn’t make sense as a lot of soldiers that leave months after me already have cut orders. My chain of command including my 1sg has called branch and they said i would have orders the coming week but that was 3 weeks ago and IG told me there is nothing they can really do because its HRC. My chain of command does know of anything else that can be done to get me orders and Im out of options. I only have 8 business days left unless my deros and I’m running out of time. Is there anything else I can do, or will I have to sit and hope that I will get orders in time to pcs in time? Please help I’m out of options and need advice

    • Mackie

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      SPC Walden,

      Your branch manager is the only one that can actually put you on orders. Why you are so close to your DEROS but are not on assignment yet is beyond me and can only be answered by your branch manager. I have two recommendations:

      1. I recommend someone in your Chain-of-Command contact HRC again. 3 weeks has passed, maybe a reminder will help. This is a pressing issue that needs to be addressed quickly. If your 1SG cannot get anything, perhaps it’s time to elevate the situation to your CSM.

      2. Talk to your S1 in regards to getting your DEROS adjusted that will allow you sufficient time to PCS once you are placed on orders.

      I hope this helps.

  • GL

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    Where can I find my assigment orders?

    • Mackie

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      You can find your assignment location by logging into AKO, once logged in you will see “Army Links” on the right side of the page. Click on “Assignment Satisfaction Key”, then click “On Orders”. Your assignment location can be seen there.

      Depending on your installation’s procedures, you will receive your actual hard copy orders through your S1 channels after you have attended your Levy Briefing. However, I have known some installations to issue orders prior to the Soldier attending the briefing, normally 60-90 days out from the Soldier’s report date. If you are within this timeframe and have not received your orders, I suggest that you consult with your S1.

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