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Do I lose my promotable status when I am flagged?

I failed a for-record PT test in June and I was flagged. The also took my "P" away at that time. My 4856 says "...this means you are not fully eligible for favorable actions like awards, promotions, and attendance to any schools (WLC). However, this is not permanent and this flag will be lifted if you remain dedicated and determined to improve your overall level of fitness." I have searched through AR350-1, AR600-8-19, and AR600-8-2. Nothing in those regs say that I will have my promotable status revoked for APFT failure. Once i found this flaw I noticed that I would have made cutoff for AUG, but I was flagged. All I had to do was remove the flag and my date of rank would be the day that I had the flag removed. My CoC are saying that they will not enstate promotable status my even though they took it away illeaglly. What should i do?

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When a Soldier incurrs a flag, the system automatically removes them from the Promotion Standing List. This is because they are placed in a nonpromotable status IAW AR 600-8-19, Par 1-10a(10).

HRC has published a FAQ in regards to flagged Soldiers and removal form the Pormotion Standlist List. It is as follows:

Question: Are Soldiers who are flagged automatically removed from the E5/E6 promotion standing list?

Answer: Yes. If a Soldier is flagged the PPW system will remove the Soldier from the promotion standing list and place the Soldier into a NOT Eligible status.

If the Soldier is flagged for adverse action and receives a summarized Article 15 or is exonerated from the initial flag, the BDE/BN S1 will re-integrate the Soldier back onto the promotion standing list. To re-integrate the Soldier follow the steps in the PPW user manual on pages 12-17.

If a Soldier that is exonerated/case closed favorably from an initial flag who would have made the DA Promotion Point Cutoff Score while the suspension of favorable personnel actions was in effect, provided otherwise qualified, the unit S1 will submit an Administrative Records Correction request to HRC, ATTN: Junior Enlisted Promotions. Email request to hrc.tagd.jr.enlistedpromotions@conus.army.mil

If Soldiers are selected for promotion and flagged after the BY-NAME list is posted, there will be a relook of the system for flagged Soldiers prior to the 1st of the month to prevent by-name selection and ultimate promotion.

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MacArthur D. "Mackie" Ocampo is an Active Duty First Sergeant and has served in the Army for 15 years to date with 9 years of service as a Human Resources Specialist. Currently, he serves as the First Sergeant for Hammer Company, 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 2d Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2d Infantry Division at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, WA. Mackie has served in Korea, Ft. Carson, CO, Schofield Barracks, HI, twice in Afghanistan, and twice in Iraq accumulating over 59 months of overseas service. He believes that the "personnel" aspect of a Soldier's career is a big factor in their morale and readiness and is determined to assist Soldiers in their professional development by providing sound advice and clarification of ongoing policies, regulations, and procedures.

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  • Anonymous

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    I was a CPL that made the cutoff for SGT but was flagged the day before my effective promotion for adverse action. I received a guilty summarized article 15 so I know that my promotion to E5 would be canceled, but does that make me a SPC? They said that by me receiving the summarized article 15 I lost my promotable status. There was no punishment, but they said I’m suspended for two months.

    • Mark Gerecht

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      My apologies for the delayed response. Generally, the commander will create a 4187 revoking your corporal status if they choose to do so. Otherwise your CPL status will remain in tact. On another note please stop by our YOUTUBE CHANNEL Mentor Military as it has tons of information on these type subjects and much more. If you like what you see please subscribe and tell your network. Respectfully TOP!

  • Gt Gal

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    Who do I contact at HRC to remove a FA. Code from my ERB. The flag was placed to remove my name from the school list.

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