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When a Soldier incurrs a flag, the system automatically removes them from the Promotion Standing List. This is because they are placed in a nonpromotable status IAW AR 600-8-19, Par 1-10a(10).
HRC has published a FAQ in regards to flagged Soldiers and removal form the Pormotion Standlist List. It is as follows:
Question: Are Soldiers who are flagged automatically removed from the E5/E6 promotion standing list?
Answer: Yes. If a Soldier is flagged the PPW system will remove the Soldier from the promotion standing list and place the Soldier into a NOT Eligible status.
If the Soldier is flagged for adverse action and receives a summarized Article 15 or is exonerated from the initial flag, the BDE/BN S1 will re-integrate the Soldier back onto the promotion standing list. To re-integrate the Soldier follow the steps in the PPW user manual on pages 12-17.
If a Soldier that is exonerated/case closed favorably from an initial flag who would have made the DA Promotion Point Cutoff Score while the suspension of favorable personnel actions was in effect, provided otherwise qualified, the unit S1 will submit an Administrative Records Correction request to HRC, ATTN: Junior Enlisted Promotions. Email request to hrc.tagd.jr.enlistedpromotions@conus.army.mil
If Soldiers are selected for promotion and flagged after the BY-NAME list is posted, there will be a relook of the system for flagged Soldiers prior to the 1st of the month to prevent by-name selection and ultimate promotion.
Comments
Anonymous
I was DA promotable for e6 got flagged and now I’m not. Does my DA promotable status come back or do I have to reboard
Anonymous
So the flag is put into play and it removes the soldier from the promotion list, does that mean when the flag is lifted that they should be put back?
April
If you are punished fro disrespcting a senior NCO,received article 15 company grade and punishemnt was extra duty closed favorably.Do you get inagragted back onto (P) status(promotion)???
Dave17
I was a SPC/P, but I lost my promotable status due to a failure to pass my pt test. Does this mean I lost my leadership position also?
Lo
Needing information.
Here it goes,
I was 1% over in body fat, August 12 2014. My Chain of command flagged me. They did not order me to any extra pt or corrective training as I was flagged. They did counsel me on ABCP.
As of the next month (September 12 2014) I was 2% under. My flag was gone within three days after the September tape test.
I know what is on the line (career in the Army).
I have a family (2 kids and a wife)
I work shift work. (2100-0500) -third shift before and during my flag period. Soldiers on shift work conduct PT before shift, example- 1800-1900
After my flag was lifted my team leader switched me to second shift (1300-2100) which the soldiers conduct PT at(1100-1200).
Now my team leader is saying I Must attend pt formation to conduct PT at 0600.
Some may see it as help/motivation…
Though, I am the one with out any guidance or corrective training, to get off the flag on my own.
Once again I know what is on the line and appreciate the “sudden help”. But fact is I’m off the flag..
Currently I am 4% under as of 27 September 2014.
My question-
Is this not punishment? I am off the flag. why am I conducting PT twice a day? Is that not “special pops pt” for someone who is still flagged and did not meet requirements..
If any one can give guidance or there thought I would appreciate it very much.
I am very close to making a IG complaint
Heather
I had a flag put on me for a month for being 1% over the body fat standard. As a result I lost my promotable status and had to go through the whole board proceeding over again instead of “just” being put back on the promotion standings list after the flag was removed, causing me to be promoted months later than my promotion points would have originally granted. However, I think that may be individual commander’s policy more than it is a blanket regulation.
Mark Gerecht
Heather,
That is a painful position to be in but I believe your commander followed the letter of the law based on my understanding of the issue. I will ask our HR SME to chime in on this post and see if he can provide the specific text of the regulation.
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Mackie
AR 600-8-22, Par 1-10a(10) states that if a Soldier has incurred a FLAG under the provisions of AR 600-8-2″, they are to be placed in a nonpromotable status. Furthermore, Table 3-3 of the same regulations provides a code for the removal of Soldiers from the promotion standing list who are enrolled in the Army Weight Control Program.
Soldiers who are flagged are ineligible for promotion, are removed from the promotion standing list and in most occasions, must attend another promotion board to regain promotable status. MILPER Message 11-233 (Updates and Guidance for the Semi-Centralized Promotion System), par D states:
D. PPW (Promotion Point Worksheet) will place Soldiers in an ineligible status and remove them from the Promotion Standing List when a FLAG is initiated in eMILPO
(1) A Soldier who is removed from the Promotion Standing List for a valid reason (i.e. expired APFT, valid FLAG, etc.) must reappear before a promotion board to be reintegrated onto the Promotion Standing List.
Based on your post, it seems to me that your promotion after you regained promotable status was justified.
I hope this helps, thank you for contacting us at AskTop!
Cody
If I become DA promotable and make the C10 roster, then do I still have to go to the promotion board? Or am I already promotable? Are they the same thing?
Eck
Cody, as long as the commander does not prevent you being integrated onto the C-10 roster, you will be considered promotable. However, you only receive the minimum points. Any schools, awards, PT, Weapons Qualification points, etc. will not be added to your promotion points total until you appear and are recommended by the promotion board. Upon automatic list integration, you will receive 39 points if competing for SGT and 14 points if competing for SSG. No other points will be awarded until after you pass the formal board proceedings.
(See DA Memorandum dated 17 May 2010, SUBJECT: Revised Promotion Point Computations – Semi-Centralized Promotions) These rules went into effect 1 June 2011.
I hope you found this useful.
Eck
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SGT WRIGHT
I made the cut-off for e-6 1MAR13 but was audited by brigade and couldnt not find one of my awards but i have the award now and was never taken off of the promotion by name list or anything. All I was told was to get the award in asap. Now Im flagged but I have the award. Can I still get promoted?