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What is the recovery time for a profile?

I am on a profile. How long do I have to recover before I have to take the APFT?

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Army Directive 2016-07 did away with a recovery period of twice the length of the profile.  Therefore it is possible to receive an APFT after you complete the profile period.

Army Directive 2016-07 states:

(3) Soldiers will no longer have an automatic recovery period after the
termination of their temporary profiles. Additionally, temporary profiles will no longer include the military physical profile serial system (PULHES) characterization. Temporary profiles with MRC and DL characterizations will be for duration only. When renewing a temporary profile, profiling officers will update the functional activities the Soldier can perform. An appropriate physician will review temporary profiles lasting 180 days or longer.

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  • gi jeff

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    So if i am on recovery from a 30 day profile…. example the 30 day profile expired july 1st. now july 30th they want to give me a pt test for schools. If I take this PT test can and fail can I be flagged?

    • Mark Gerecht

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      If on a 30 day profile you are entitled to 60 days recovery. They can give you a diagnostic APFT during this time and should be careful not to re-injure you. They cannot flag you or give you a record APFT until day 61. At day 61 you can take a For Record APFT and be flagged if you fail it

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  • SGT Sente

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    A NCO friend of mine been on a temp profile due to back pain last week of Sep 2012 until mid Nov 2012. During his recovery they went on FTX after thanks giving til 15 Dec same year. The PT that his seeing put him back temp profile from 28 Jan to 9 Mar this year and told him to see PT right after there JRTC, which he never did becausr he d po n’t want to be on any profile anymore and just want to recover. His 1SG want hom to take an APFT while on recovery period because his NCOER is due by June. Question is, can he take APFT while on recovery?

    • SGT NICK

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      Its up to him really, they can put it on his NCOER that he hasnt taken one because of a profile. They can also write that the profile hinders him/her to perform their job efficiently in the bullets. Thats technically not good. Yes he is not suppose to take one until his recovery date ends though.

  • SFC Camacho

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    I have a soldier that was on recovery perios until May1, 2013. Now he got a permanent profile for the same reason he was on recovery, and my question is: Does his recovery time is over due that he has a permanent profile? We are having a PT test and his permanent profile says he can do an alternate event.

  • SGT NICK

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    In your letter you claim they told you from the beginning that you were gonna be given an alternate aerobic event for a profile so why haven’t you been preparing? and the answer is no they dont. You could talk it over with your COC but I doubt they will budge since you are so close to graduation and have not taken a PT test at all yet.

  • SPC Smith

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    I am currently in AIT the 3rd week here I had a bad ankle sprain that has bothered me for the last month. They xrayed my ankle and determined that I should be given and peminant profile with the alternate apft event. I’m two weeks out from graduatuon and am just now taking a pt test due to bad weather. My question is am I not suppose to have time to prep for the alternate event before a record pt test. My profile is good for 1 year. I’m afraid if I fail this APFT I will be chaptered out.

    • Verhoef

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      I’m sure it’s a little late now- but just an FYI heads up,… At AIT they will have you do an alternate event, and if your reason for being on profile is “serious” enough they will actually sign a waiver for you that allows you to graduate AIT on profile with no PT test so long as you passed a Diagnostic APFT- for example back when I was in AIT I was wavered and allowed to leave because I had knee fractures the entire time I was there from Basic Training, I took a Diagnostic test anyway at the very start which then carried through and I was given a waiver that allowed me to graduate with my class despite being on a medical profile (non-permanent) However if the profile time exceeds graduation date (going off what the Inactive PLT SGT was telling me) you MUST stay at AIT as an Inac. until the profile time is done before you can leave without a waiver- I can’t confirm that as 100% true though because for the dirt-bag Inacs or profiles just trying to skip PT he’d always try and scare them off of it so–

  • PFC Anderson

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    I am coming off of 6 months worth of consecutive profiles but the longest was 30 days. Do all of those add up or do i only get the time of my last profile? My team leader is trying to say i only get my last profile as recovery time. An i am trying to make sure im not missing something in the regs.

    • Mark Gerecht

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      PFC Anderson,
      The only thing that I know of that mention Recover is in FM 7-22. Which states you receive twice the length of your profile not to exceed 90 days. There is noting that states profiles are stackable. Your chain of command has several options. In the direct interpretation of the policy you should get twice the length of your last profile. Depending on the seriousness of your injuries it might be wise for them to give you some additional time to recovery so that you can do well on the test and not risk additional injury to yourself. Therefore I would imagine providing you 30-45 days would be a reasonable request after 6 months on profile. Odds are the Chain of command is just trying to do their jobs and hold Soldiers to the standard. If you believe you need additional time use your chain of command and go through the Squad Leader, Platoon Sergeant/LDR, and if necessary see the 1SG/CDR on open door policy. Explain your concerns in a reasonable, unemotional, and calm manner. You may want to consider pointing out the reason for your request is to make sure you score well and do not injury yourself by attempting to test too soon.

  • SPC Burtt

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    Do I have any time after coming off recovery to do PT before taking a record APFT. It just seems unfair to not be able to do PT for 3 months then take a record APFT as soon as I get off recovery.

    • Mark Gerecht

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      You have twice the length of your pro­file to recover not to exceed 90 days. See FM7-22 You can­not take a Record APFT prior to com­plet­ing your recov­ery time. If you were on profile for 90 days. You would have 90 days of recovery. During your recovery time you will condition yourself to achieve APFT standards. If you received your proper recovery time you are required to take the APFT for record as directed by your command.

  • SPC Langham

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    I know the max time/recovery time for temp. profiles is 1 year and then 90 days, but what about in the case of surgeries? Had an ankle surgery and the docs said the recovery period for my injury is 6 months to a year plus. Are time exceptions made in the case of surgery recoveries?

    • Mark Gerecht

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      Typcially you should not have a problem. If your recovery goes longer than a year the doctor will usually add an extension to the profile. However the chain of command could ask for a reevaluation and/or request a Med board. You can also look into the possibility of a permanent profile it the condition dictates. Odds are if the injury will be resolved with the additional 6 months the chain of command will not have a problem but you will only have 90 days to recover so it is important to maintain your physical readiness as close as possible to the standard. Also with an extended profile of this nature you should be proactive and seek an alternate event APFT Event.

      Hope this helps

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