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My NCO is Lying and my Chain of Command is Pushing an Article 15- What Can I Do?

Question: Top, I really need some wisdom here. I will take responsibility for my actions but I cannot be blamed for something I did not do. My chain of command is trying to frag me with a company grade AR15 for (Lying to an NCO). The platoon Sgt admitted offline that he was guilty of miscommunication, but in front of top he wont admit it and plays a different type of role. He back-dated 3 counselings roughly 2 months but he did write the current date on the date block, is ther any hope for me top i am a fast tracker in m MOS and i am one the way to a successful path in the army i need help this can really screw me and i am honeslty in the right and do not deserve this please assist Thanks

Discussion

There appears to be a lot going on here, so let’s try and take it in stages.

ATP 6.22-1 paragraph 2-30 states: “counseling should be conduct as close to the event as possible.”

Questions to Consider

  • Was it possible for the NCO to counsel you sooner?
  • If so why did he wait until now?
  • Was there a trigger event that caused the NCO to start this paperwork?
  • Was the NCO directed to write the counseling?
  • If so, by who and why?

The answers to these questions are important.

The Assessment Block

Assessment Block must be completed for an counseling statement to be considered complete.  If this block is not complete the document is not complete and the defense can sometimes successfully argue this point.

Next: Talk with the NCO

The NCO is not telling the truth. If you really are innocent and have nothing to hide volunteer to take a lie detector test (ok that’s a bit extreme). The key is you must find a way to get your chain of command to see that there is more to the story.

If the NCO did in fact lie then it will be very difficult for him to admit it to the 1SG and Commander but perhaps you can have an offline discussion with him and ask him to put himself in your position and with regard to family and career. Would he want someone to do this to him? He can always go to the chain of command and explain that he mis-communicated the situation and made a mistake. Then state it would be unfair and unethical to continue to punish you. The likelihood of this working is small but you need to provide him the chance and ask him to be a professional.

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posted on 01/30/2017 under Q&A
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Mark is a Retired Command Sergeant Major with 26 years of military leadership experience. He held 3 military occupational specialties (Field Artillery, Nuclear Weapons Tech, and Ammunition Ordnance). Mark is one of the leading military authors in the fields of leadership, counseling, and training..

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